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Post by Russ on Aug 24, 2014 9:43:20 GMT -6
Why would Faul be behind RA? Well, first of all, maybe he isn't. If he is, then it may be both a way to create additional relevance for himself while also controlling the disinformation effort. The first IAAP videos were great, especially The Winged Beatle, but then they descended into some stupid story about hiding suitcases. That's a staple of disinformation. You lay out a bunch of facts, sucker people in, then discredit everything you've said previously by seeming to expose yourself as a poser. In this case it was all done more or less anonymously, so no one's real life had to take a hit. The young kid who filmed the video was probably a dupe. Why else do you bring a rank amateur into what, up to then, had been a thoroughly professional operation?
One thing that really gets me about PID (so many things do) is first, how do you replace a Beatle with someone who just happens to be a serial killer, and how does a musician in London convince the LA Police department to kill a man who has become a nuisance? The scope of all of this is incredible...
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Post by cellogal on Aug 25, 2014 3:11:31 GMT -6
I never can get my head around the George Kelly thing. I read things about him being a long time employee, but Paul had only been wealthy for a couple of years by 1966. Also, wasn't he living in Jane Asher's house? Also, I'm in the dark about backward masking on Strawberry Fields. I know there's the "I buried Paul" tag at the end, but that isn't backward. What is said via backward masking on that song? Russ, I read it in blackbird's transcript of the Mal Evans page, towards the end. Mal comments about the song when John plays it backwards. I don't have my old vinyls any longer, so I don't know about SF either.
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Post by Russ on Aug 25, 2014 13:08:06 GMT -6
Yeah, I saw it in the journal entry too CG. I've just never heard anything about it otherwise... Maybe there's something on the internet... I'll look.
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Post by decitfaul on Aug 25, 2014 19:48:56 GMT -6
"we'll sing it man, we'll be reverse"
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Post by Russ on Aug 27, 2014 18:39:27 GMT -6
Thanks decitfaul!
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Post by decitfaul on Aug 27, 2014 19:45:56 GMT -6
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Post by marc on Sept 2, 2014 11:12:33 GMT -6
Why would Faul be behind RA? Well, first of all, maybe he isn't. If he is, then it may be both a way to create additional relevance for himself while also controlling the disinformation effort. The first IAAP videos were great, especially The Winged Beatle, but then they descended into some stupid story about hiding suitcases. That's a staple of disinformation. You lay out a bunch of facts, sucker people in, then discredit everything you've said previously by seeming to expose yourself as a poser. In this case it was all done more or less anonymously, so no one's real life had to take a hit. The young kid who filmed the video was probably a dupe. Why else do you bring a rank amateur into what, up to then, had been a thoroughly professional operation? One thing that really gets me about PID (so many things do) is first, how do you replace a Beatle with someone who just happens to be a serial killer, and how does a musician in London convince the LA Police department to kill a man who has become a nuisance? The scope of all of this is incredible... Faul is a serial killer? The horoscope one?
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Post by blackbird on Sept 2, 2014 18:40:25 GMT -6
Why would Faul be behind RA? Well, first of all, maybe he isn't. If he is, then it may be both a way to create additional relevance for himself while also controlling the disinformation effort. The first IAAP videos were great, especially The Winged Beatle, but then they descended into some stupid story about hiding suitcases. That's a staple of disinformation. You lay out a bunch of facts, sucker people in, then discredit everything you've said previously by seeming to expose yourself as a poser. In this case it was all done more or less anonymously, so no one's real life had to take a hit. The young kid who filmed the video was probably a dupe. Why else do you bring a rank amateur into what, up to then, had been a thoroughly professional operation? One thing that really gets me about PID (so many things do) is first, how do you replace a Beatle with someone who just happens to be a serial killer, and how does a musician in London convince the LA Police department to kill a man who has become a nuisance? The scope of all of this is incredible... I find Faul's relationship with the PID theories to be interesting. On the one hand, he tosses out casual denials with that absurd bit about "barefeet on a hot day", and on the other he takes the time to create additional clues and construct album covers like Paul is Live. I think he has been WAY more involved in the history of this thing then he lets on... He would have to be after all. With the advent of the internet and our ability to sniff out the forensic facts of this case, he would of had to step up his game in order to keep the ruse going. Perhaps RA was his way of doing that, and functions as a sort of limited hangout, with just enough truth to snare the genuine researchers. I agree with you that this MikeNL guy is a dupe, and the same can probably be said about Billy Martin. I guess I still held out hope that the RA series would bear some fruit in the end, because like you said, The Winged Beatle was pretty good stuff. But now that we have this silly interview, those hopes have been bitterly dashed. The implication within it that Paul has always been the same enraged me. I wanted to leap through the screen and give Martin his very own ju ju eye ball!
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Post by cellogal on Sept 2, 2014 20:59:36 GMT -6
I agree. What is the point of Mikey, "Billy" et al spending all that time and money, travelling, digging out clues, making videos and them posting them for benefit the PID/PWR community. The money and material must come from somewhere and someone, so I can only assume Faul/Paul has allowed this group to do this with his full consent. Can we believe what Emilio Lari says in his video? After all, he did turn up and pretend to be the international photographer for A Hard Days Night, so he could be lying also. The intriguing part is Mikey's comment about Paul never being able to perform in public again if the revelation is revealed, as the public would find it too weird. I wonder why?
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Post by marc on Sept 3, 2014 12:58:04 GMT -6
I think MikeyNL is just a PID enthusiast, rather than an Apple Corps' insider. I think he's as eager to resolve this mystery as any of us.
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Post by blackbird on Sept 3, 2014 16:50:30 GMT -6
I think MikeyNL is just a PID enthusiast, rather than an Apple Corps' insider. I think he's as eager to resolve this mystery as any of us. True. But I think he's a little too enamored of Billy Martin.
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Post by cellogal on Sept 4, 2014 2:53:19 GMT -6
I think MikeyNL is just a PID enthusiast, rather than an Apple Corps' insider. I think he's as eager to resolve this mystery as any of us. True. But I think he's a little too enamored of Billy Martin. I agree. If Mikey's involvement in making videos for "them" is for free, he's a little naive.
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Post by marc on Sept 4, 2014 10:44:21 GMT -6
MikeyNL's man-crush on Martin Heurlin notwithstanding, naive may be presumptuous. He's certainly no investigative reporter, but his IAAP interview earned him a mess of Internet followers - hard currency in today's market!
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Post by Jeff on Sept 28, 2014 6:54:49 GMT -6
When you play Strawberry Fields Forever backwards, you can CLEARLY hear John say :" We'll sing it man, we'll be reverse" - listen at 1:27 to 1:34 -
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Post by frederick on Nov 6, 2014 9:09:17 GMT -6
Greetings all . . . I'm new here . . . I am very interested in this thread. Russ writes: I question this as well. Redwel Trabant, who did 'The Sgt. Pepper Code' and 'The Beatles Book of Revalations', offers up some pretty interesting "dotz" concerning the timeline of a little known division of Apple Corps known as "Standby Films" and the role Neil Aspinall may have played in the "iamaphoney" project. "Iamaphoney, Neil Aspinall and Apple"Two things I always found curious about both "The Rotten Apple" series and "The Winged Beatle" are first, "Who had access to all that archival footage?", and second, "Why would Apple Corps, Ltd, who is just as bad if not worse than Disney about their copyrights allow this material to be used on Google's YouTube without having a legal-sleeze hissy-fit"? (The only one of "The Rotten Apple" series I've seen blocked by Apple is #20) If we look at the timeline: 1970 - Standby Films started for Neil Aspinall's "The Long and Winding Road" project 1994 - Apple pays Standby Films £408,000 1995 - Apple releases "The Beatles Anthology" documentary and "The Beatles Anthology 1" CD 1996 - Apple releases "The Beatles Anthology 2" and "The Beatles Anthology 3" CDs . . . but "Faul" apparently does not like that the 2nd volume contains the "Apple Star / Splhcb" ("It Was A Fake Mustache") tracks and has them destroyed. A new version is mastered and released omitting these tracks. 2006-2007 - Standby Films pays out around £200,000 2006 - "The Rotten Apple" series is released by "iamaphoney" 2008 - Neil Aspinall, childhood friend of George Harrison and Paul McCartney and head of Apple Corps, Ltd dies 2010 - "The Winged Beatle" documentary is released by "iamaphoney" 2012 - "The Revalation" documentary by "iamaphoney" release is blocked by a court order 2014 - The "Billy and Me" documentary is released. Could a possible hypothesis be that Neil Aspinall working with some Apple Corp, Ltd insiders tried to tell the real story of "The Beatles" using a talented but unknown film director(s) (Billy Martin/ Martin Heurlin) without "Faul's" knowledge but were discovered when Neil Aspinall died . . . and the "iamaphoney" project has since been driven into the ground by "Faul"? peace.
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