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Post by marc on Nov 7, 2014 5:41:33 GMT -6
'We'll be reversed', comes to mind. Suugesting transformation and PID/PWR folklore.
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Post by jaigurudeva on Nov 7, 2014 15:44:31 GMT -6
Hey Russ, don't assume every backward message is backward masking. Back masking is a message in reverse that is done on purpose. Reverse speech is the unconscious mind speaking; it is not done with forethought and planning. I was planning to do a post on the subject, but have not yet had the time.
Just the first 33 seconds of Strawberry Fields in reverse (the little addition at the end of the song ), this is what I hear:
Get him out. I'll fear it come. (possibly: All fear it come.) Get up. Pull it up. Get up. He's dead. Yes, man. It's Paul.
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Post by Alcax- on Dec 19, 2014 19:42:40 GMT -6
Hello everybody, I’m following with huge interest this story since a couple of years , but just recently I discovered this forum, among the many other forums or website dedicated to the PID mystery, and I’ve felt immediately more comfortable than in others, because I have the impression that here many theories are discussed but also trying to be reasonable, while in other sites or you believe to the most strange theories of conspiracy or you are automatically out of any discussion.
(Someone here talked about an Italian guy called Sun King. If this is the guy which says that in Italy many famous singers like Claudio Baglioni and Laura Pausini have been replaced…..I’m Italian too and I think more probable that Berlusconi comes from Jupiter).
Coming back to the topic.
I watched like many of you the video of MikeNL and I was quite disappointed to understand that the whole Iamaphoney organization seems to be someway “driven” by Faul himself, which would be responsible to release or deny the RevelAtion.
So yesterday I wrote in the Iamaphoney facebook page the following message, which I would like to share with you. No answers so far (other messages receives many answers in a short time). In my message I was claiming as follows:
1) Replace another person, pretending in front of the world to be “him”, and even live with the money belonging to “that person”, is not simply a joke, a funny game. That’s a serious fraud, a real crime in the end.
So, I cannot accept that many people around this guy, perfectly informed about the truth, accepted to hide this crime and never thought to go to the police or the authority generally speaking asking for a serious investigation.
And how is it possible that no one of the thousands of journalists of serious newspapers or even scandal tabloids that could make a great scoop are interested in this story? And no consumer association, or fans club of the “original” Beatles, are claiming for an investigation regarding this untold story?
Even about the Iamaphoney organization itself, that so much time spent on this topic, why aren’t all of them directly going to the police with a collection of clues to make the investigation to start?
2) The idea that “Faul” is at last the only person which can free these secret documents, or photos, or mysterious songs, and we must convince him to do that, is really absurd in my opinion. He has no interest at all to do that, because even at the end of his artistic life he would lose everything, for him, for his memory, and especially for his sons and daughters. I think that some associations would not hesitate to promote a sort of “class action” against the phoney to make him to pay for his fraud. Why then should he take this risk for himself and his family?
For the reasons 1) and 2), I think that pushing someone to the investigation could be more effective rather than expect from him a sort of “redemption”.
3) Bu there is, in the whole story, a weak point never explained. If this is a phoney, and a phoney who does’t want to reveal himself, why did he take part to all those photo sessions or video, where so many clues are distributed and put in evidence? The naked feet, the black flower, the fake moustache, the Sgt.Peppers covers and so on. He was there, he was acting like requested, it’s impossible that he didn’t know why he was asked to behave that way. So, he was accepting the idea to give the clues about himself!
But if we consider that the “mother” of the clues is the cover of Sgt.Pepper’s, released in 1967, can we believe that a person who accepts to change himself with surgery to replace another, then takes the risk to be discovered immediately, after a few months? Having destroyed his real identity for nothing and going to be “the phoney” for the whole world after these personnel sacrifices?
Thtat’s why I always think that the real story could be quite different than the most accepted version, even if I have no concrete idea about how it could be.
So far my message to Iamaphoney.
Now let me add my personnel thought, with 2 hypothesis:
Hypothesis A) Surprisingly, the whole PID is a great hoax, like the common people (not interested in the PID) usually think; in this case we could simply imagine that Paul (and even the others) was using sometimes one (or more) double for security reason. We don’t have to forget that they were travelling around the world in full period of “Cold War”, they were representing (and exporting) the western lifestyle in a period of incredible “spy stories”, so it is absolutely possible that Secret Services were protecting them from attacks. But after all this time, I can’t see reasons to keep hidden this story if more or less like that.
Hypothesis B) Among the many theories, the only one that in my opinion can fit with most of the contradictions, is the idea that Paul didn’t die but retired for stress, or really had the car accident and had serious injured so that he preferred not to appear in public anymore. In both cases, probably, he personally chose his double, maybe keeping writing and singing songs with his mates but having another person to show to the world at his place. A person that probably accepted the role, the surgery and so on, having in mind that one day he would have been revealed to the world as a double, but not like an impostor, rather like a friend that supported the real Paul in his recovery: not a phoney, but an hero which sacrificed his own life for the glory of the Beatles.
This could explain why he accepted to take part to the clues, he had no fear to be discovered; why the Paul’s family never claimed: can we really think that only for money they accepted to pretend that everything was right, and even take pictures smiling with Faul? Yes only if that was the Paul will, a Paul’s plan to be supported.
If this theory is more or less true, or someway close to real, we can then imagine that originally Paul and his mates had an agreement to reveal this secret to the fans with the many clues, then, considered that nobody really understood what was going, Paul decided that the story could continue for years. And maybe we can even imagine that the date of 2012 (indicated by Iamaphoney as the date pf the RevelAtion) had planned since the beginning, but at the end something went wrong. Maybe the real Paul died around that year, and Faul thought that his role was changing. No longer the “official and authorized double” of Paul, but the one and only Paul still alive. Then of course if he would reveal that today the real Paul is dead, his live performances would be considered “weird” simply because the fans could even accept, at last, to have been cheated for years for Paul’s will, but they no longer accept to keep this fiction after real Paul’s death. If Paul is (now) dead, Faul must stop because his task is completed.
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Post by cellogal on Dec 20, 2014 4:04:23 GMT -6
Hi Alcax and welcome! I hope you stick around.
I'm inclined to go along with your hypothesis 2, that Paul voluntarily retired or was involved in an accident and due to injuries was forced to step back and support Faul. To me, that's the only way his extended family could shut up about the replacement, and benefit financially. As blackbird has commented, there is an obvious difference in the JPM/Faul personalities, as well as the physical anomalies. Iamaphoney now irritates me, it seems that Mikey's been sucked in to Billy Martin worship and the IAP videos seem full of subliminals and dark occultism, so I avoid watching them. There are people alive who know the truth about whether PWR/PID is a hoax or not. If only Ringo would speak up!
CG
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Post by alcax on Dec 20, 2014 9:08:19 GMT -6
Hi Alcax and welcome! I hope you stick around. I'm inclined to go along with your hypothesis 2, that Paul voluntarily retired or was involved in an accident and due to injuries was forced to step back and support Faul. To me, that's the only way his extended family could shut up about the replacement, and benefit financially. As blackbird has commented, there is an obvious difference in the JPM/Faul personalities, as well as the physical anomalies. Iamaphoney now irritates me, it seems that Mikey's been sucked in to Billy Martin worship and the IAP videos seem full of subliminals and dark occultism, so I avoid watching them. There are people alive who know the truth about whether PWR/PID is a hoax or not. If only Ringo would speak up! CG Thanks, I hope to return often here for an open discussion of this story! (technical issue: from my tablet I cannot login, I always appear just as GUEST as in my previous message, while from PC the login is correct). Anyway, I see you agree with my hipothesis 2, so nothing else to add from me, but I would like that someone who thinks differently could give me an explanation of my point 3), why Faul took part to the clues after a few months, with the risk to be discovered immediately. Strangely, nobody seems to spend time on this point. I'm not sure that my idea is the correct one, but that gives reasonable explanations that other don't give. I await for other ideas! Ciao Alcax
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Post by blackbird on Dec 20, 2014 12:47:52 GMT -6
Hello Alcax, and welcome to our forum!
You raised some great points in your post. Concerning Iamaphoney, I suspect that something occurred behind the scenes to throw the project off track. Probably along the lines of Faul finding out about it. According to the Iamaphoney Facebook page (controlled my MikeNL), The RevelAtion is now due out in 2022. But I don't trust the motivations behind the project anymore. Much to my annoyance, the emphasis has shifted from Paul is Dead to secret Beatle music that was never released. Perhaps that was the game all along--a clever way to market previously unheard material. But it seems to me that the project has been co-opted. I've had several exchanges with MIkeNL, in which he refused to acknowledge that the replacement of Paul is a crime that warrants discovery and prosecution. Of course, I'm not sure if he even believes Paul was replaced, and if that's the case, then I'm done with the whole Rotten Apple thing.
I liked that you raised practical questions regarding the mechanics of the replacement. And you are spot on when you say that no one seems to talk about it. On its face, Paul's replacement, while obvious, seems a rather absurd proposition. I think to understand it one has to have had a previous experience with looking beyond what so many perceive to be reality. I personally take a conspiratorial view of history, because I feel it is warranted by the evidence and by the nature of human beings themselves. But such a perspective is typically at odds with accepted mainstream "facts". I believe people in power have always sought to deceive the public in order to control and use us. And I feel that what happened with Paul is an extension of that. While part of me (my "sensible" side) would like to believe that JPM simply chose to step out of the limelight and hand-picked his replacement, I must admit that I know better than that. My instincts (which I acknowledge could be completely wrong) tell me he was murdered, and not in a nice way either... I think his death and replacement was all wrapped up in the Crowley garbage and weird goings on with the Process Church. His death (if real or symbolic) ushered the Beatles into a new era... It was a sacrifice that cemented their eternal status if you will.
As far as the risk Faul took early on with the clues and things... From what I understand, occultists always announce their doings in symbolic ways. It's all hidden in plain sight. They do this because they think it lends them a greater spiritual potency. I don't think they worry about people truly finding out the truth, because the path to it is far too convoluted. People suspected that something was off with Faul immediately after he appeared, yet said nothing at the time. Others noticed the album clues. But these things became curiosities rather than revelations about reality--myth not fact. And that's how the Beatles wanted it apparently. At the end of the day, most people have no desire to dip beneath the surface of the reality they are presented with or have established for themselves. They do not like to think in terms of conspiracy or satanic goings on, but desire pre-packaged lives that are predictable and safe. I find myself thinking that way from time to time. After all, wouldn't it be so much easier just to believe that nothing happened to Paul? That it's all whipped cream with cherries on top? Going through the looking glass is not fun.
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Post by alcax on Dec 23, 2014 15:49:56 GMT -6
Hello Alcax, and welcome to our forum! You raised some great points in your post. Concerning Iamaphoney, I suspect that something occurred behind the scenes to throw the project off track. Probably along the lines of Faul finding out about it. According to the Iamaphoney Facebook page (controlled my MikeNL), The RevelAtion is now due out in 2022. But I don't trust the motivations behind the project anymore. Much to my annoyance, the emphasis has shifted from Paul is Dead to secret Beatle music that was never released. Perhaps that was the game all along--a clever way to market previously unheard material. But it seems to me that the project has been co-opted. I've had several exchanges with MIkeNL, in which he refused to acknowledge that the replacement of Paul is a crime that warrants discovery and prosecution. Of course, I'm not sure if he even believes Paul was replaced, and if that's the case, then I'm done with the whole Rotten Apple thing. I liked that you raised practical questions regarding the mechanics of the replacement. And you are spot on when you say that no one seems to talk about it. On its face, Paul's replacement, while obvious, seems a rather absurd proposition. I think to understand it one has to have had a previous experience with looking beyond what so many perceive to be reality. I personally take a conspiratorial view of history, because I feel it is warranted by the evidence and by the nature of human beings themselves. But such a perspective is typically at odds with accepted mainstream "facts". I believe people in power have always sought to deceive the public in order to control and use us. And I feel that what happened with Paul is an extension of that. While part of me (my "sensible" side) would like to believe that JPM simply chose to step out of the limelight and hand-picked his replacement, I must admit that I know better than that. My instincts (which I acknowledge could be completely wrong) tell me he was murdered, and not in a nice way either... I think his death and replacement was all wrapped up in the Crowley garbage and weird goings on with the Process Church. His death (if real or symbolic) ushered the Beatles into a new era... It was a sacrifice that cemented their eternal status if you will. As far as the risk Faul took early on with the clues and things... From what I understand, occultists always announce their doings in symbolic ways. It's all hidden in plain sight. They do this because they think it lends them a greater spiritual potency. I don't think they worry about people truly finding out the truth, because the path to it is far too convoluted. People suspected that something was off with Faul immediately after he appeared, yet said nothing at the time. Others noticed the album clues. But these things became curiosities rather than revelations about reality--myth not fact. And that's how the Beatles wanted it apparently. At the end of the day, most people have no desire to dip beneath the surface of the reality they are presented with or have established for themselves. They do not like to think in terms of conspiracy or satanic goings on, but desire pre-packaged lives that are predictable and safe. I find myself thinking that way from time to time. After all, wouldn't it be so much easier just to believe that nothing happened to Paul? That it's all whipped cream with cherries on top? Going through the looking glass is not fun. Hello Blackbird, nice to be able to discuss such a different point of view. You are mentioning a possible conspiracy regarding Paul. Generally speaking I don't believe so much in any conspiration theory: Marylin Monroe, JFK, the 9/11, the killing od Bin Laden, and many others, these are incredible stories where someone think the truth is very different from the "official" story. I don't want to go into this discussion of course, but certainly in those stories there were always a politician scope, a secret reason to drive the public opinion to certain directions rather than other. For those stories, I can understand that people very powerful, probably belonging to the government themselves, can have a strong interest to hide the truth forever, because new info could generate complicated situations for some Countries. But Paul..... even giving him the right importance in the story of the music....it's just the story of the music. I mean, Paul Mc Cartney was not a leader of anything but a rock band. The band who changed the story of the music, of course, but a music band anyway, not much more than this. To clarify better: if we had a first Paul, young boy, good boy, wonderful music author and singer, a sort of best friend that anyone would like to have; and then, after the 66, we have a new Paul, which becomes leader of something relevant, which creates a politician party, which organizes a revolution, acting like a bad guy and sharing dangerous ideas.... In this case, I could think: ok, he was replaced and the new guy is completely manipulated from a strong and powerful organization which wants to drive people in a dangerous direction. But this is not our scenario. New Paul just made his hair to grow, he started smoking marijuana, but not much more than this. What influence did he have for the young of his age? Very few in my opinion, John was much more revolutionary. And after the Beatles, his popularity fell down, making him a discrete singer of the present and a wonderful singer of the past. Not more, not less. For this reason, why this replacement, if real, should have been so many people involved but available to guaranteee their silence? What I want to say is that I don't think this story can be attributed to people with greate power, because people with great power spend it for much relevant things than guarantee immunity for a pretending singer. Then let's move to the "occultic" road. This is much more possible. I mean, I don't imagine people with great power behind that, but a satanic group yes. And in this case the idea that Paul was murdered during some activities of sacrifice or something like that, could make sense. This could also justify the behaviour of the other Beatles, probably involved as well, the imagine of Crowley, even the connection with Manson. And in this scenario, I can accept your explaination regarding the clues: satanists want to give messages, because it's like is Satan is launching his challenge to Jesus Christ. So, let me say that your version, even if not my favourite, is then possible. About Iamaphoney: for what I have understood, originally the leader was Neil Aspinall. Until his death, the Rotten Apple videos were distributing clues, and establishing the RevelAtion date in 2012. Why that date? No one was able to explain. But after the Neil's death, something changed, probably "Faul" himself took the lead in this group, maybe giving them the illusion that he agreed to reveal the truth, but then he manipulated the organization to delay any action, 10 years more is a lot..... I agree with you that something strange is happening in that organization, but even here I repeat my strong doubt. why Neil Aspinall at the beginning, or some journalist nowadays, never thought that the best way was to create a scandal, forcing the poilice to do something (like for example DNA mandatory examination). The reason why they prefer to distribute clues without telling clearly the story is very incredibile for me.
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Post by blackbird on Dec 24, 2014 13:39:36 GMT -6
Hello Alcax, and welcome to our forum! You raised some great points in your post. Concerning Iamaphoney, I suspect that something occurred behind the scenes to throw the project off track. Probably along the lines of Faul finding out about it. According to the Iamaphoney Facebook page (controlled my MikeNL), The RevelAtion is now due out in 2022. But I don't trust the motivations behind the project anymore. Much to my annoyance, the emphasis has shifted from Paul is Dead to secret Beatle music that was never released. Perhaps that was the game all along--a clever way to market previously unheard material. But it seems to me that the project has been co-opted. I've had several exchanges with MIkeNL, in which he refused to acknowledge that the replacement of Paul is a crime that warrants discovery and prosecution. Of course, I'm not sure if he even believes Paul was replaced, and if that's the case, then I'm done with the whole Rotten Apple thing. I liked that you raised practical questions regarding the mechanics of the replacement. And you are spot on when you say that no one seems to talk about it. On its face, Paul's replacement, while obvious, seems a rather absurd proposition. I think to understand it one has to have had a previous experience with looking beyond what so many perceive to be reality. I personally take a conspiratorial view of history, because I feel it is warranted by the evidence and by the nature of human beings themselves. But such a perspective is typically at odds with accepted mainstream "facts". I believe people in power have always sought to deceive the public in order to control and use us. And I feel that what happened with Paul is an extension of that. While part of me (my "sensible" side) would like to believe that JPM simply chose to step out of the limelight and hand-picked his replacement, I must admit that I know better than that. My instincts (which I acknowledge could be completely wrong) tell me he was murdered, and not in a nice way either... I think his death and replacement was all wrapped up in the Crowley garbage and weird goings on with the Process Church. His death (if real or symbolic) ushered the Beatles into a new era... It was a sacrifice that cemented their eternal status if you will. As far as the risk Faul took early on with the clues and things... From what I understand, occultists always announce their doings in symbolic ways. It's all hidden in plain sight. They do this because they think it lends them a greater spiritual potency. I don't think they worry about people truly finding out the truth, because the path to it is far too convoluted. People suspected that something was off with Faul immediately after he appeared, yet said nothing at the time. Others noticed the album clues. But these things became curiosities rather than revelations about reality--myth not fact. And that's how the Beatles wanted it apparently. At the end of the day, most people have no desire to dip beneath the surface of the reality they are presented with or have established for themselves. They do not like to think in terms of conspiracy or satanic goings on, but desire pre-packaged lives that are predictable and safe. I find myself thinking that way from time to time. After all, wouldn't it be so much easier just to believe that nothing happened to Paul? That it's all whipped cream with cherries on top? Going through the looking glass is not fun. Hello Blackbird, nice to be able to discuss such a different point of view. You are mentioning a possible conspiracy regarding Paul. Generally speaking I don't believe so much in any conspiration theory: Marylin Monroe, JFK, the 9/11, the killing od Bin Laden, and many others, these are incredible stories where someone think the truth is very different from the "official" story. I don't want to go into this discussion of course, but certainly in those stories there were always a politician scope, a secret reason to drive the public opinion to certain directions rather than other. For those stories, I can understand that people very powerful, probably belonging to the government themselves, can have a strong interest to hide the truth forever, because new info could generate complicated situations for some Countries. But Paul..... even giving him the right importance in the story of the music....it's just the story of the music. I mean, Paul Mc Cartney was not a leader of anything but a rock band. The band who changed the story of the music, of course, but a music band anyway, not much more than this. To clarify better: if we had a first Paul, young boy, good boy, wonderful music author and singer, a sort of best friend that anyone would like to have; and then, after the 66, we have a new Paul, which becomes leader of something relevant, which creates a politician party, which organizes a revolution, acting like a bad guy and sharing dangerous ideas.... In this case, I could think: ok, he was replaced and the new guy is completely manipulated from a strong and powerful organization which wants to drive people in a dangerous direction. But this is not our scenario. New Paul just made his hair to grow, he started smoking marijuana, but not much more than this. What influence did he have for the young of his age? Very few in my opinion, John was much more revolutionary. And after the Beatles, his popularity fell down, making him a discrete singer of the present and a wonderful singer of the past. Not more, not less. For this reason, why this replacement, if real, should have been so many people involved but available to guaranteee their silence? What I want to say is that I don't think this story can be attributed to people with greate power, because people with great power spend it for much relevant things than guarantee immunity for a pretending singer. Then let's move to the "occultic" road. This is much more possible. I mean, I don't imagine people with great power behind that, but a satanic group yes. And in this case the idea that Paul was murdered during some activities of sacrifice or something like that, could make sense. This could also justify the behaviour of the other Beatles, probably involved as well, the imagine of Crowley, even the connection with Manson. And in this scenario, I can accept your explaination regarding the clues: satanists want to give messages, because it's like is Satan is launching his challenge to Jesus Christ. So, let me say that your version, even if not my favourite, is then possible. About Iamaphoney: for what I have understood, originally the leader was Neil Aspinall. Until his death, the Rotten Apple videos were distributing clues, and establishing the RevelAtion date in 2012. Why that date? No one was able to explain. But after the Neil's death, something changed, probably "Faul" himself took the lead in this group, maybe giving them the illusion that he agreed to reveal the truth, but then he manipulated the organization to delay any action, 10 years more is a lot..... I agree with you that something strange is happening in that organization, but even here I repeat my strong doubt. why Neil Aspinall at the beginning, or some journalist nowadays, never thought that the best way was to create a scandal, forcing the poilice to do something (like for example DNA mandatory examination). The reason why they prefer to distribute clues without telling clearly the story is very incredibile for me. I think conspiracies exist at all levels of human authority and endeavor. When I mentioned one in relation to Paul's replacement I wasn't necessarily attributing it to any international entity. It could have simply been a conspiracy of British occultists/satanists. But it is worth noting that what happened with Paul could have been connected with the JFK conspiracy in some way. James Paul was very supportive of researcher Mark Lane at a time when Lane was being actively stalked and threatened by intelligence agencies. I'm not saying the two cases are linked absolutely, but it is a possibility. Additionally, don't underestimate the power and influence the Beatles held over millions, particularly young people. That kind of control is of tremendous importance to people in power. And one must realize that politics and entertainment have always been linked, and increasingly so as time goes by. Ultimate totalitarian control has always been gained via military force, mind control, or both. Corrupt politicians have persistently employed entertainment to entrap the masses and cause them to follow certain agendas. What if Paul refused to yield his influence to those who wanted to use it for nefarious purposes? Say, the promotion of LSD for instance? Remember, Faul went on television several times in the '67-'68 period both to trivialize the dangers of LSD and to promote "counter cultural" lifestyles. Both were areas in which the CIA had its fingers. The Beatles' "psychedelic period" could then be viewed as an experiment in social manipulation and control, beginning soon after Paul vanished. Just as a side note. I don't know if you've read Dave McGowan's series on Laurel Canyon in the 1960s, but he does an excellent job of linking the Hippie movement and 60's music with the shadowy world of the intelligence agencies. It's a rather lengthy read, but worth your time. It can be found here
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Post by blackbird on Jan 31, 2015 15:06:56 GMT -6
Greetings all . . . I'm new here . . . I am very interested in this thread. Russ writes: I question this as well. Redwel Trabant, who did 'The Sgt. Pepper Code' and 'The Beatles Book of Revalations', offers up some pretty interesting "dotz" concerning the timeline of a little known division of Apple Corps known as "Standby Films" and the role Neil Aspinall may have played in the "iamaphoney" project. "Iamaphoney, Neil Aspinall and Apple"Two things I always found curious about both "The Rotten Apple" series and "The Winged Beatle" are first, "Who had access to all that archival footage?", and second, "Why would Apple Corps, Ltd, who is just as bad if not worse than Disney about their copyrights allow this material to be used on Google's YouTube without having a legal-sleeze hissy-fit"? (The only one of "The Rotten Apple" series I've seen blocked by Apple is #20) If we look at the timeline: 1970 - Standby Films started for Neil Aspinall's "The Long and Winding Road" project 1994 - Apple pays Standby Films £408,000 1995 - Apple releases "The Beatles Anthology" documentary and "The Beatles Anthology 1" CD 1996 - Apple releases "The Beatles Anthology 2" and "The Beatles Anthology 3" CDs . . . but "Faul" apparently does not like that the 2nd volume contains the "Apple Star / Splhcb" ("It Was A Fake Mustache") tracks and has them destroyed. A new version is mastered and released omitting these tracks. 2006-2007 - Standby Films pays out around £200,000 2006 - "The Rotten Apple" series is released by "iamaphoney" 2008 - Neil Aspinall, childhood friend of George Harrison and Paul McCartney and head of Apple Corps, Ltd dies 2010 - "The Winged Beatle" documentary is released by "iamaphoney" 2012 - "The Revalation" documentary by "iamaphoney" release is blocked by a court order 2014 - The "Billy and Me" documentary is released. Could a possible hypothesis be that Neil Aspinall working with some Apple Corp, Ltd insiders tried to tell the real story of "The Beatles" using a talented but unknown film director(s) (Billy Martin/ Martin Heurlin) without "Faul's" knowledge but were discovered when Neil Aspinall died . . . and the "iamaphoney" project has since been driven into the ground by "Faul"? peace. Welcome, frederick! Thank you for the post. I think it very possible that Aspinall was involved in the RA project. However, in the comments of Trabant's post, "The Celluloid Beatles", Billy Martin makes an appearance and denies Neil's involvement. So, the whole thing just might have been an independent project after all. Though it seems like Apple found out about it at some point. Martin has recently been dumping YouTube links onto his Twitter page. They take you to various user pages (apparently created by Martin), all of which display between 3 and 6 Iamaphoney videos. It is curious to me why Martin is doing this now. According to the Iamaphoney Facebook page, the RA series is supposed to kick off again in 2016, with the RevelAtion appearing in 2022. Martin's Twitter
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Post by blackbird on Jan 31, 2015 20:03:13 GMT -6
Here's a new Iamaphoney video. It was uploaded 4 days ago:
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Post by alcax on Apr 13, 2015 16:54:59 GMT -6
Hello, have you seen that the video "Billy and me" that was the main point of this topic has been removed from youtube? I wrote to Iamaphoney on his facebook page but he didn't give any kind of explanation, he just wrote "sorry, it had been removed"
I think this is really strange, there were also many interesting comments (including mine ;-) ), all cancelled.
What do you think?
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Post by blackbird on Apr 18, 2015 7:16:26 GMT -6
Hello, have you seen that the video "Billy and me" that was the main point of this topic has been removed from youtube? I wrote to Iamaphoney on his facebook page but he didn't give any kind of explanation, he just wrote "sorry, it had been removed" I think this is really strange, there were also many interesting comments (including mine ;-) ), all cancelled. What do you think? Hello! Hmm... When I first viewed "Billy and Me," I was surprised at how much Billy revealed without really saying anything. It was obvious that he was linking Faul himself to the RA project, and particularly to the timing of The RevelAtion. Billy also said that he was no longer with the project, or something to that effect. In other words, I think the interview was done without the approval of Faul and Apple, hence its removal. I'm still confused by the video though. Billy remained silent on the question of whether or not Paul died and was replaced, even though MikeNL gave him a clear opening to discuss it. Martin admitted that the content of the RA videos is a mixture of both truth and lies, but did not confirm or deny their central thesis, which hinges upon Paul's death. He claims that Faul does not want The RevelAtion released yet because he wants to keep "being him" for awhile longer. I'm not sure what this means. I can't see Faul ever admitting that he is a replacement and that JPM died in 1966. I imagine that would do a bit more than simply make performing "weird" for him (as Billy suggests). The world would be, to use Heather Mill's word, "devastated" by such a revelation, with Faul becoming a target of anger and derision. So given all that, does the so called "RevelAtion" consist of something other than Paul's death and replacement? What on earth could it be if not that?
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Post by alcax on Apr 18, 2015 17:39:54 GMT -6
Hello, have you seen that the video "Billy and me" that was the main point of this topic has been removed from youtube? I wrote to Iamaphoney on his facebook page but he didn't give any kind of explanation, he just wrote "sorry, it had been removed" I think this is really strange, there were also many interesting comments (including mine ;-) ), all cancelled. What do you think? Hello! Hmm... When I first viewed "Billy and Me," I was surprised at how much Billy revealed without really saying anything. It was obvious that he was linking Faul himself to the RA project, and particularly to the timing of The RevelAtion. Billy also said that he was no longer with the project, or something to that effect. In other words, I think the interview was done without the approval of Faul and Apple, hence its removal. I'm still confused by the video though. Billy remained silent on the question of whether or not Paul died and was replaced, even though MikeNL gave him a clear opening to discuss it. Martin admitted that the content of the RA videos is a mixture of both truth and lies, but did not confirm or deny their central thesis, which hinges upon Paul's death. He claims that Faul does not want The RevelAtion released yet because he wants to keep "being him" for awhile longer. I'm not sure what this means. I can't see Faul ever admitting that he is a replacement and that JPM died in 1966. I imagine that would do a bit more than simply make performing "weird" for him (as Billy suggests). The world would be, to use Heather Mill's word, "devastated" by such a revelation, with Faul becoming a target of anger and derision. So given all that, does the so called "RevelAtion" consist of something other than Paul's death and replacement? What on earth could it be if not that? I totally agree with your comments, but anyway I'm surprised that he cancelled the video without saying anything, and nobody seemed to ask him for any explaination. The fact that he cancelled this video can mean that he probably said more than allowed. But what? And who asked him to cancel? If I think to the contents of the video for those I can remember and that you too reminded me, I think there were many contridictions and things unexplained, rather than incredible revelations. In fact many people commented this video as disappointing, because announced as clarificator but it was saying nothing serious. I mean, that video seemed quite strange but not really important, while on the contrary if he was asked, or better imposed, to remove it, probably there were some relevant info to delete. Then I wonder if nobody of the many people interested has downloaded the video in a hard disk, it would be interesting trying to upload it again and let him to circulate. Personally I asked explanation on facebook twice in the Iamaphoney page and once in the MikeNL page. No answers, neither from other people that usually make many comments. I think we should insist, because the game of Iamaphoney is very strange: he cancel this video, but at the same time he's active on that page and he's always adding new links or videos. What makes me think that all those videos are absolutely not dangerous and finally useless!!!!
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Post by blackbird on Apr 19, 2015 9:42:50 GMT -6
Hello! Hmm... When I first viewed "Billy and Me," I was surprised at how much Billy revealed without really saying anything. It was obvious that he was linking Faul himself to the RA project, and particularly to the timing of The RevelAtion. Billy also said that he was no longer with the project, or something to that effect. In other words, I think the interview was done without the approval of Faul and Apple, hence its removal. I'm still confused by the video though. Billy remained silent on the question of whether or not Paul died and was replaced, even though MikeNL gave him a clear opening to discuss it. Martin admitted that the content of the RA videos is a mixture of both truth and lies, but did not confirm or deny their central thesis, which hinges upon Paul's death. He claims that Faul does not want The RevelAtion released yet because he wants to keep "being him" for awhile longer. I'm not sure what this means. I can't see Faul ever admitting that he is a replacement and that JPM died in 1966. I imagine that would do a bit more than simply make performing "weird" for him (as Billy suggests). The world would be, to use Heather Mill's word, "devastated" by such a revelation, with Faul becoming a target of anger and derision. So given all that, does the so called "RevelAtion" consist of something other than Paul's death and replacement? What on earth could it be if not that? I totally agree with your comments, but anyway I'm surprised that he cancelled the video without saying anything, and nobody seemed to ask him for any explaination. The fact that he cancelled this video can mean that he probably said more than allowed. But what? And who asked him to cancel? If I think to the contents of the video for those I can remember and that you too reminded me, I think there were many contridictions and things unexplained, rather than incredible revelations. In fact many people commented this video as disappointing, because announced as clarificator but it was saying nothing serious. I mean, that video seemed quite strange but not really important, while on the contrary if he was asked, or better imposed, to remove it, probably there were some relevant info to delete. Then I wonder if nobody of the many people interested has downloaded the video in a hard disk, it would be interesting trying to upload it again and let him to circulate. Personally I asked explanation on facebook twice in the Iamaphoney page and once in the MikeNL page. No answers, neither from other people that usually make many comments. I think we should insist, because the game of Iamaphoney is very strange: he cancel this video, but at the same time he's active on that page and he's always adding new links or videos. What makes me think that all those videos are absolutely not dangerous and finally useless!!!! Billy did seem to confirm during the interview that Paul (or his replacement) underwent a trepanning operation in Africa. Perhaps Faul doesn't want that known. He said in a 1986 interview that John Lennon once broached the subject with him over dinner. Apparently Lennon thought it a good idea, but Faul was hesitant. But what if he had already had such an operation, and withheld it from Lennon? Or was the anecdote given to divert attention from the notion of McCartney having been trepanned in Africa? Apparently, trepanning was (and still is, though rarely) commonly practiced in Kenya among several tribes. Typically, the purpose of an operation was to provide relief from head trauma or to "release" an evil spirit from the body. People have discussed Paul's trepanation as an attempt to open up his "third eye". Some groups in Europe and the U.S. credit trepanation with expanding the consciousness. Billy claims that Paul was "not the same" when he returned from Africa. One hypothetical scenario could be that Paul was involved in an accident, and so traveled to Africa to have an operation to relieve head pain. In addition he might have undergone facial surgery to address wounds to the face. Reconstructive surgery is very present in Nairobi, Kenya, and has been since the 1950s. Now I don't subscribe to the above scenario, it's just a theory, but it would mean that we've had the same Paul all along. It's strange that MikeNL has not responded to your questions, especially since he cast himself as an honest person in search of truth. Perhaps he is enamored with having gotten in with Billy, and now considers himself part of a special secret group. It has always annoyed me the way in which Iamaphoney strings out information, concealing or obfuscating at will, with a total disregard for integrity and honesty. That tells me he (or they) are not so much interested in making the public aware of the truth as they are in crafting a mysterious drama. It seems clear that Billy Martin adheres to the A. Crowley BS, though to what extent remains unclear. But that kind of makes him a fox guarding the hen house, no? Are the RA videos less of an investigation into PID, and more like love letters to Faul and Crowley? Who knows...
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Post by cellogal on Apr 19, 2015 20:43:59 GMT -6
Very good posts, Alcax and blackbird! I totally with all of what you've said. Removing the video abruptly, I think, is another tactic to lure PID/PWR enthusiasts into the Faul orchestrated BS camp, and prolong the "mystery" that is the supposed revelation. Faul really needs to get over himself, with his little games and clues, poncing about with his massive ego, not to mention trying to stay relevant in the pop scene with Kanye and Rihanna (allegedly other "club" members). I am also becoming increasingly irritated by the nutters and disinformation agents on other forums. How many worker bees does this guy employ to keep the "is he or isn't he" going? Claire's research is detailed and genuine, and I like what she has to say as well as the way she presents her research. If anything, I'm still inclined to pursue the PWR theory. If only Ringo would come out openly and clarify the whole shenanigans. I'm afraid Tina irks me...as much as I want to like what she's done, there's no way I can accept all 4 Beatles being replaced. Emilio Lari? Is he another disinfo mate, in on Iamaphoney's radar and payroll also?
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